Switching Esters Mid Cycle! My Test-Cyp to Test-E SWAP

Kai Palikiko Aug. 10, 2020

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Can I switch from test cypionate to test enanthate mid cycle? What's going on brother? My name is Kai and if you are trying to get a hold of me by the way, the best way to do that is the link to my email. Now that link is right in the description.

So a really interesting question came in the other day, and it seems simple, but I promise you this is definitely in the realm of advanced.

So the question was this, can I switch from test cypionate to test enanthate mid cycle? Now you're probably thinking, yeah, that sounds, that sounds pretty damn simple, I mean, I don't see why not. You're probably thinking that's a really beginner question, but I promise you, this is definitely in the advanced section.

From my personal experience, when it comes to switching esters, any type of ester, even if it's the same half left, or practically. I didn't even do this until after I was doing insulin cycles. I'm talking about - so when it comes to insulin, that's pretty advanced, right? And you're thinking I would have done the whole ester switching way before that.

No, my coach, my mentor didn't even let me allowed to do that, until I've already done advanced type of cycles. So the way my mentor coached me, he pretty much structured every single detail of my cycle, not just to do it the proper way, but in order for me to really understand.

And it took me man, it took me a very long time to truly understand how he laid it out for me, and for me to understand every single compound as well. And for the entire part, of course, just like anybody out there, yeah, I fought against the entire thing. Why can't I do this? Why can I do that? I heard that IFBB pro is doing this type of cycle, why can't I do it?

So he had to really made me understand, but he pretty much didn't explain either, he's like, nope, can't do that, nope, can't do that either, nope, it doesn't matter. Now, it took me a long time to really understand why he was doing that. But I realize now that he was paving me in the right pathway of actually not just doing the Gear right, but to actually be comfortable at it the entire time.

When it comes to the actual image of it, the aesthetics of it, even though it's a bulking agent, it doesn't aromatize, but I'll get to that in a minute when it comes to the post cycle therapy stuff, it doesn't aromatize.

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Hypothetically, if I was to begin right now, and I wanted to do some kind of ester switch, right, going from, say test E, to test Prop, or for example, that question, test cypionate to test enanthate mid cycle.

I would have to do a full cycle of each compound in order for me to really understand how those compounds work, even though it's the same exact half life, it pretty much is the same exact structure. Here's the key thing about this. Take, for example, that question, test Cyp to test E, I don't know how I'm going to absorb testosterone enanthate if I've never done it before. I don't know how I'm going to react to it.

I don't know if I need to change my protocols. So unless of course I've done a full cycle of test E, I cannot switch it mid cycle because of all the dangers that might come. There's tons of different factors that I have to think about, when it comes to the lifestyle changes, the hormonal adaptation, am I going to sweat more? Am I gonna have more oily skin? Am I gonna have to change up my routines?

Am I gonna have a little bit more anxiety? Am I gonna have a lot more energy that I need to displace? There's so many different things that I need to take into account, not just oh, hey, I heard that this guy is doing testing Cyp to test E, let me just do it, let me just try it out. Can I make that work? Possibly. But the way I do things, man, the way I do this lifestyle cycling, it's not just about the safety protocol, or making sure I do it right.

I want to make sure I'm comfortable the entire time. I don't want to wake up one day. oh, my skin's a little bit more oily. Now I got to use a whole different line of products. Oh, crap, I'm starting to sweat a lot more. It's all about being comfortable the entire time, at least for me, that's how I like to do my lifestyle cycling. For me to really understand just one compound, right, not switching, I would have to do at least one or two cycles with it.

Example with a test Cyp, ok, how do I feel on it? How do you react with it? Do I convert more estrogen with it as well, because that could be also a huge factor? That might not happen with test E, but I don't know how it is with test Cyp. The other one is this, am I gonna have to increase my macros? Am I going to be a little bit more lethargic? Am I gonna have to pin a little bit more?

Do I need more testosterone stability with test Cyp or test E? So do you see why I can't just go from one ester to another as easily. That's why it's so complicated. I can't take this thing lightly. Now, it may seem like it's an easy task, right, because test Cyp, test E, they're pretty much the same exact thing. The same thing with the half life as well, and the spike time, and the delivery, pretty much the same exact thing.

But that's not how I view it. I am extremely cautious when it comes to these things. And you know by now man, I'm not afraid to push the boundaries, the limits. I've done multiple insulin cycles, I've done multiple DNP cycles. My coach has literally got me to the point to where I would purposely bottom on my E2 levels for contest prep.

So I am not shy at all, when it comes to really pushing the limits. But I got there, I got to that point, because my mentor coached me the right way and led me the right way, I didn't just go from doing a test and Anavar cycle, straight into an insulin and DNP and purposely bottling up my glycogen levels through insulin.

All that is fun, all that is advanced, all that is needed for, say, an NPC competition or prep or a photoshoot. Yes, it's absolutely needed for me to give my best display of my physique or my image. But I got there, one step at a time, right? That's how I view things. And this goes for all, because I know that person was just asking about test Cyp to test E, but this goes for all of the compounds.

For example, there's a lot of my guys right now who are thinking maybe I could go from Tren enanthate at the beginning of my cycle, and then to Tren acetate because I really want to detail down to my levels. The way, same exact thing, it works. I would have to do a full cycle of Tren E, 12, 14 weeks, and the same thing with Tren acetate, 12 or 14 weeks, just to make sure I know exactly how I react to it from week one, two, three.

Halfway point to the end of the cycle as well. I got to make sure I know exactly how I feel on it. It's not just the symptomatic ways or the obvious ways as well. Like oh, we Tren Ace I see a little bit more vascularity, with Tren E I'm not as vascular. It goes deeper than that as well. It's all about how we focus too. Am I able to function with my day to day living, when it comes to, say Tren acetate or Tren enanthate.

And this goes for any of the compounds as well. I got to make sure that not only that I'm able to do my lifestyle cycling, am I functional when it comes to my career, with my family, you know, if I had kids, right, how am I in a social setting? How am I in my day to day tasks? So it's not just as simple as jumping from one to another.

Now, once I'm there, once I'm there, once I've earned my spot, my place in order to do these type of advanced cycles, these type of advanced techniques, then yes, of course, I've earned my way into that type of luxury type of lifestyle, being able to switch esters, being able to use, you know, high end compounds, switching mid cycle. But I can't just do it like this, oh, I heard this IFBB pro is doing this type of cycle.

Oh my God, he leaked out his cycle that he did for so and so competition. I'm gonna read it and follow exactly... I can't do that. That to me is not only dangerous, not only that is irresponsible man, it's just a slap to the oil of the Gods. I gotta take this thing seriously, one compound at a time. So to go back to that question, can I switch from test cypionate to test enanthate? Not unless I've done a full cycle of each compound.

Anyways, any question you have, my link to my email is right in the description, you put in your name, your email, any question you have for me, it's gonna go directly to my proton mail. Other than that boys, Kai here, out. Take care.

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